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A huge rage (in 9/11 disinfo) is the WTC MicroNuke Hypothesis. Key evidence being cited are the images of the “Melted Cars” etc. If a ‘nukewave’ caused the burning cars, then why weren’t all of these other cars melted too?

Mailtruck in the middle:

Larger images from the above image:………

Copcar in the middle:……

Cars in the middle:

Mini-van in the middle:

Truck still drives:…
Why didn’t we hear reports of all of the other local vehicles having their electronics zapped by the EMP?

Blue car in the middle:…

Destruction zone, but cars not burned:…………………………

Unburned postal truck

One of the things that I noted is the line of site of that postal truck. One of the things that really stands out for me is not so much the vehicles, but rather the skyline in the photograph

In that photo the entire skyline is on fire where WTC5,6 are sitting…

The other really big thing I noted is this.

In that photograph do you notice that the fire raging on the right is HIGHER than the height of the building in front of it (in relation to the line of site towards where WTC1 and 2 stood). It means that WTC5 or 6 or which ever one is in the foreground shielded the lower floors of that building from the fire.

That one postal truck seems to have been shielded by WTC5,6 AND the building beside it.

Note the bus that is farther back in this photo clearly sits in a much more direct line of site towards the crack between the two buildings. If you look at the postal vehicle it is JUST shielded somewhat from a line of site. A lot of the other vehicles possibly burned up simply by spreading fire.

More perspective:

wtc nuke map

Here goes another photo with nonmelted cars:

If a nuke vaporized the cars, then how did people manage to run out of there during it and live (without radiation sickness)?

“Stuff is still blowing up behind me, as I’m running. I can hear stuff exploding. I could hear rumbling, the street under me was moving like I was in an earthquake. “…


KT: Did you think these explosions in the (WTC6) lobby were maybe lights popping out as in an electrical surge, or did they seem more like explosives going off in a timed manner?

PO: I immediately got the impression they were timed explosives. I have never thought they were anything else, not then, not now.

KT: You mentioned you were running west on Vesey Street, what happened after that?

PO: I just kept running. I was aware there were other people running as well. After passing the cars on fire, I was trying to find someplace safe. I tried to run into the lobby of 6 World Trade, but there were federal police — maybe 4 to 6 of them — standing in the open doorways. As I tried to run in, they wouldn’t let me, waving me out, telling me “you can’t come in here, keep running.” As I turned to start running west again, I saw a series of flashes around the ceiling of the lobby all going off one-by-one like the X-mass lights that “chase” in pattern. I think I started running faster at that point.…

Why no radiation burns?

Another account from a fire fighter who managed to not receive radiation burns:

“At that time I went back to the north tower again, and they were stretching a line. A lot of car fires erupted. All of a sudden cars were blowing up everywhere.

I went back and I helped a guy stretch a line. The guy was all by himself. I helped him stretch a line and started putting water on the car fires. I remember distinctly walking past — I saw 118 Truck. 118 Truck was parked right on West Street right past Vesey.

Q. Everybody tells me all these vehicles were on fire. What do you attribute all these vehicles being on fire to?
A. I believe it must have been from the debris falling and the heat just started hitting the cars and starting cars on fire. There were an awful lot of cars burning, an awful lot. It had to be radiated heat or just stuff falling on cars and setting them on fire. There were numerous cars burning, numerous.”
Curran, Paul (pdf file)

The main explanation for the more ‘unexplainable’ burnt cars is ruptured underground gas lines. Here is what this would look like:


Other explanations, in all of that chaos of course, would be falling & flying debris, cars engines left running and their intakes became clogged with the thick asbestos dust causing them to overheat, and yes even car bombs. Note that fire tends to spread. Just because many cars were burning doesn’t mean they all had to ignite at the same time.

Large flying debris:

RED CIRCLE: Large Debris
GREEN CIRCLES: Car may have been running and abandoned
BLUE ARROW: Firehose

THICK RED CIRCLE: Wasted mailtruck
GREEN ARROW: Mailtruck in the middle

But gas lines were most likely the main cause for the ‘far out’ fires.

For proof, here is the parking lot of the neighboring World Financial Center:

Note the sign on the right.

Why weren’t the other cars found burnt if a nuke wave lit that parking lot on fire, and how did those hundreds of people survive?

This page chronicles all of the gas line explosions that day.

More WTC7 street angles:…

More WFC Lot angles:

Note the large dirt mound that would have cut down the odds of a “nukewave” hitting those cars even slimmer:……………
Note how WTC7 is still standing.

RED CIRCLE: Substantial looking piece of debris that looks as if it could punch thru a car window.

New aerial angle of the lot burning:

Note all of the cars before the WFC lot that aren’t burning.

Here’s a shot from in front of the WFC buildings 3+4, that was also in front of WTC1, didn’t burn:

WFC Lot: Case Closed

This photo was taken in front of WTC7, before it collapsed:

It proves that large debris did manage to ‘wrap’ around the building. Note that chunk of debris / metal girder that almost looks like it jabbed right into the gas tank of that burning car. Then note the proximity of the nearby cars that may catch fire when that car explodes.

For micronukes to have ignited the cars, heres how they would have had to of been designed:

‘The micronukes were tuned to not react with things like electronics/radios/cameras/helicopter-circuit systems, people/organic flesh, trees/paper, and so on. The only thing they couldn’t get around was the gas in the tanks and fuel lines in the vehicles, but luckily they were able to tune it around the gas in the gas mains that were under the streets/sidewalks, and they were able to design them so that the radiation waves propagated randomly so than some cars would melt but others wouldn’t so that ‘debunkers’ such as I could point out how inconsistent the car meltings were.’

The reality is that nukes aren’t even the ideal material for blasting structural steel, cutting charges are:

If you have photos of cars that could have only been melted by nukes, please do provide and explain why.

Challenger Investigation Got $175 Million. Columbia $152 Million. Lewinsky $30 Million. 9/11 $15 Million. Financial Crisis Gets Only $8 Million

Source: Washington’s Blog

The government spent $175 million investigating the Challenger space shuttle disaster.

It spent $152 million on the the Columbia disaster investigation.

It spent $30 million investigating the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

The government only authorized $15 million for the 9/11 Commission.

And how much has the government authorized for the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission? You know, the commission charged with getting to the bottom of what caused the financial crisis?

Just $8 million.

These figures don’t account for inflation. For example, the Challenger investigation cost over $300 million in today’s dollars.

You can tell alot about the questions which the government is truly interested in finding answers to by the amount of money it authorizes for the various investigations.

Documents recently obtained by the ACLU show that the government warned the 9/11 Commission against getting to the bottom of the September 11 terror attacks in a letter signed by Attorney General John Ashcroft, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and CIA Director George J. Tenet.

In a letter dated January 6, 2004, the Commission was refused permission to question terrorist detainees, with inquiry leaders Hamilton and Kean being told there was “A line that the Commission should not cross,” in the course of its investigation.

A PDF of the letter (page 26) can be read here.



Ahmed Wali Karzai, the brother of the Afghan president and a suspected player in the country’s booming illegal opium trade, gets regular payments from the Central Intelligence Agency, and has for much of the past eight years, according to current and former American officials.

The relationship between Mr. Karzai and the C.I.A. is wide ranging, several American officials said. He helps the C.I.A. operate a paramilitary group, the Kandahar Strike Force, that is used for raids against suspected insurgents and terrorists. On at least one occasion, the strike force has been accused of mounting an unauthorized operation against an official of the Afghan government, the officials said.

Mr. Karzai is also paid for allowing the C.I.A. and American Special Operations troops to rent a large compound outside the city — the former home of Mullah Mohammed Omar, the Taliban’s founder. The same compound is also the base of the Kandahar Strike Force. “He’s our landlord,” a senior American official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.


Long considered the realm of “conspiracy buffs” The New York Times, citing anonymous “American government officials,” have belatedly “discovered” that Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence agency (ISI) is aiding the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

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Tonight I noticed thru the handy WordPress panel that Huffington Post linked to the site in reference to my old James Woolsey post:

*Neocon PNAC Member / CIA Director James Woolsey thumbed Iraq just 2 hours after 9/11

After seeing this I considered posting a link to the source of the cited NBC clip. When I looked at the site I noticed a lack of link for the time-slot in question. I then went and found the (rather rare) original raw news-feed clip, that I have, where I found the bit. I made an error on the time, as I’ll explain shortly, below. But it turns out he was actually on 2 hours early making the same link anyways.

The article is authored by Muhammad Sahimi, and is about McCain’s foreign policy advisors. It’s actually an important piece, the sort I’d consider reposting had I seen it and not be linking here now.

He cited my blog site here in reference to the James Woolsey Youtube clip I uploaded a long time ago and did that writeup. I found that clip from the 9/11 news archive. In February 2007 news happened, that implicated a backdoor to download raw quality MPG clips directly from the Archive’s archiving system. The Archive 9/11 stuff was rather unknown and I’m not even sure totally available, and these 1GB source clips weren’t meant for public consumption. So when the news broke during that whole ‘BBC reported WTC7 collapse before it did’ fiasco, some of us out there looked past the story and sought out where to find the clips.

So for less than 24 hours after the story went viral there was a limited window to grab whatever you could. From my take I found that portion inside there, later on. The filenames were quite different than how they’re now named at Archive. Those who took part in this ‘preservation of history’ effort ended up with rather random clips. Only a handful of complete sets of the ‘raw’ (not quite, but close) exist.

Here is the filename of the clip this post is all about:
V08554-10 nbc200109122209-2251.mpg

So that’s NBC, 2001, 09 (September), 12 (date), 2209-2251 (military time).

Somehow I slipped and mixed up the military time and confused that with it being 2:26 on 9/11, when it was actually 10:26 on 9/12. As I’ll point out below, Woolsey still made the link the same night only about 2 hours earlier.

On my bad, I’m not at all enjoying catching myself with such a ‘large’ error. In fact I wish someone would have spotted this mistake for me long ago. I’m sure I looked at the time more than once, but whatever happened I made the error, posted it, and never looked back. The ‘rarity’ of the situation helped it get overlooked by the sorts who would normally correct fouls, I suppose.

As was already present on Wikipedia, when I found my Woolsey clip, Woolsey did make the link to Iraq at 10:54 on the morning of 9/12. But now there is one clip posted on Youtube that might actually show Woolsey after midnight of 9/11 making the claim. This clip is stated to be “after midnight on 9/11”. Note that this timeslot isn’t available at But I do think it was from 9/12, as if you look at the ABC clip from 9/13 the anchors are different than the clip just before midnight on 9/11. [Another thing I find interesting is thatPeter Jennings mentioned that it was the second time ABC had him on that day (meaning 9/11).]

So this doesn’t hurt Sahimi’s article, in my view. Furthermore, Woolsey was one of the key Neocon drum beating war-hawks who was regularly on the nightly news of various networks screaming for war with Iraq in the early months directly after 9/11, as documented in Bill Moyer’s most excellent PBS presentation “Buying The War“.

Woolsey was a key instrument in propadandizing the population long before the Bush administration began parroting the ‘kill Iraq’ framework Woosley, Pearle and Kristol mantra. So it could be said that Woolsey and the other 2 should be charged before Bush & Cheney, or at least at the same Nuremberg show trial extravaganza.

I have many of the roughly 418 42-minute 1GB clips, but I haven’t played the Archive clips I don’t possess. Besides, it appears the clip now in question isn’t available, although I haven’t ever bothered comparing what is posted as quality-chopped streams at Archive with the master list of the original file set, that I do have. But since that time I have noticed many different news-feed uploads on the torrent networks, from time to time. I might even have that piece, although I have so much data I don’t have time ot look for it now. Note the Archive set is of what was broadcasted in DC.

No One Has To Die Tomorrow (visit original post for included videos):

Joe Biden the seemingly clairvoyant senator from Delaware, and vice presidential nominee was out making predictions, again. The last time Joe was using his crystal ball was on September 10, 2001, one day prior to the 9/11 attacks.

He was at the national press club when he made an astounding prediction, that came true hours later. “We will have diverted all that money to address the least likely threat while the real threats come into this country in the hold of a ship, or the belly of a plane, or are smuggled into a city in the middle of the night in a vial in a backpack.”

Just this past Sunday, while out fundraising in Seattle Washington, Biden spoke about what he saw the future looking like, and this time he was much more precise. He offers a timeline, a JFK comparison, and a crisis.

“Mark my words…It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy…Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

He also offers four or five scenarios that, according to ABC news, include the middle east, Russia, a nuclear capable Pakistan, and of course Osama bin Laden. Biden wants to remind you that al Qaeda is everywhere, “and its real”! Still, all that fear mongering was not nearly as concerning as his warning of our civil unrest, here we are only offered a McGuffin – but what he is saying is chilling.

“we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

“Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?’ We’re gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I’m asking you now, I’m asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you’re going to have to reinforce us.”

He is seriously asking us to just trust him, stick with us later no matter what, take whatever we give you, don’t question, “the one” because he will know better than you. He Promises that whatever is going to happen will probably make everyone so mad that the illusion may not hold; but look away, continue your quest for hope. Any type of event would be difficult to pull off, there is little trust for government in America right now, low approval ratings all around. In reality there will be no change from Obama, and at the very least, we will notice and six months into his presidency they will no longer be able to hide it.

“There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, ‘Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don’t know about that decision…Because if you think the decision is sound when they’re made, which I believe you will when they’re made, they’re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they’re popular, they’re probably not sound.”

This is when they’ll begin to squeeze and we will not have any say because it is just too big for the non intellectuals to get,

“It’s so much more important than that. It’s so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it.”

Biden is outlining some kind of event that may lead to a sick dictatorship, where the eroded Constitution will come in handy, as will the new laws that the bush presidency put on the books, like PDD 51.  We cannot just trust Biden, especially when he’s predicting an “international crisis” , Biden was linked closely to the financiers of the 9/11 attacks. In the days following 9/11, he met with Pakistani ISI General Mahmood Ahmed, the man who gave the order to get one hundred thousand dollars wired to Mohammed Atta.

Biden claims to have met with Ahmed to pepper him with threats, but has offered no reason why he let them  leave the US without any investigation at all. Although he has been confronted on these issues by the independent media, the main stream media has failed to cover this topic, and has been forgotten throughout his race towards victory.

We cannot forget, because warnings like the one he gave in the Emerald City on Sunday, must be drawn out and put on display. The line we are walking is fine, we are heading down an uncomfortable path. They have a grip on the children who will become men and woman during the Obama Regime. Children singing his praises, “we’re gonna change it, and rearrange it” . And young men dressing up in military gear, ripping out their individuality and self worth pledging to be“because of Obama”.

Biden was speaking in riddles but it is not too hard to figure out that it doesn’t sound very good. Within a year we will be questioning President Barack Hussein Obama. Bush had a rough first few months too, 9/11 changed that. There appears to be a definite plan here, as well as a message:

America will be changing, and you’re not going to like it.

See Also:
Colin Powell: “There’s going to be a crisis come along on the 21st or 22nd of January that we don’t even know about right now.”